{"id":27820,"date":"2013-11-06T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2013-11-06T05:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ashleydev.com\/2013\/11\/06\/pandoras-promise-questions-and-answers\/"},"modified":"2020-08-27T11:41:22","modified_gmt":"2020-08-27T15:41:22","slug":"pandoras-promise-questions-and-answers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cna.ca\/fr\/2013\/11\/06\/pandoras-promise-questions-and-answers\/","title":{"rendered":"Pandora\u2019s Promise: Questions and&nbsp;Answers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>By John Stewart<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>Director, Policy and Research<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Canadian Nuclear Association<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Here are some questions raised by critics of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/pandoraspromise.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><i>Pandora\u2019s Promise<\/i><\/a>, and some opinions from the Canadian Nuclear Association.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Q. \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 Why doesn&#8217;t Pandora\u2019s Promise present a more\u00a0fair and balanced discussion about nuclear energy\u2019s benefits and risks?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><i>A.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Feature-length documentary films generally take a point of view.\u00a0 No apologies for that.\u00a0 The point of view of Pandora\u2019s Promise is that there has been a strong, long-standing imbalance in attitudes toward nuclear energy.\u00a0<\/i><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q. \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 Why are the cited sources far from neutral? Is this film meant to be a one-sided sales job?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><i>A.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u201cSales job\u201d implies that the persons behind the film are selling the product, but they\u2019re not.\u00a0 The film shows leading, long-active environmentalists explaining in their own words how they came around to new opinions about nuclear power.\u00a0 Notice that the filmmaker barely appears, and there is little to no narrative overlay.\u00a0 Pandora\u2019s Promise is about these individuals\u2019 journey from anti- to pro-nuclear, and it is part of their own struggle, in their own words, to redress what they see as misunderstanding and misinformation.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Why choose to rely on testimonials from environmentalists and exclude the anti-nuclear movement when everyone knows the real problem is the nature of nuclear energy?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><i>A.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 If nuclear\u2019s advocates talk about economics, they\u2019re accused of sidestepping environmental issues.\u00a0 Now it\u2019s the other way around.\u00a0 In fact the two can\u2019t be separated.\u00a0 The \u201cnature of nuclear energy,\u201d in the eyes of both advocates and critics, is in large part about its environmental impacts (whether one believes they are large or small).\u00a0 Yes, it\u2019s possible to have a purely commercial conversation about the cost and reliability of electricity \u2013 but ultimately that conversation is incomplete if environmental impacts aren\u2019t factored in.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><\/i><strong>Q.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 According to the facts, how many deaths will the Chernobyl plant have caused?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><i>A.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We\u2019re glad you\u2019ve equated our view with the facts, because we rely on the multi-agency Chernobyl Forum, which was put together by the United Nations.\u00a0 In 2005 the Forum found that fewer than 50 deaths were directly attributed to radiation from the Chernobyl nuclear accident up to that time, and that up to 4000 people could eventually die from that cause.\u00a0 To put this into context, 47 people were directly killed by the crude oil explosion in Quebec in 2013, and some 4000 people a year die each year \u2013 each year \u2013 in coal mining in just one country, China. \u00a0<\/i><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Why does The Chernobyl Forum, which estimated cancer deaths only among the most highly exposed population in Ukraine, leave out other parts of Europe which also suffered exposure?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><i>A.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Forum also looks at affected areas of other countries, such as Belarus and Russia.\u00a0 But \u201cexposed\u201d is not the same as \u201charmed.\u201d \u00a0The Forum recommends focusing on the most highly affected areas.\u00a0 Even in those irradiated areas, the Forum finds that p<\/i><i>overty, \u201clifestyle\u201d diseases and mental health problems pose a far greater threat to local communities than does radiation exposure.<\/i><i><\/i><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Are there, or are there not, at least 6,000 cases of thyroid cancer caused by Chernobyl?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><i>A.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well, no.\u00a0 The Forum said that number (coincidentally) is about 4,000, nine of which were deaths as of 2005.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Why use the 2005 UN report on Chernobyl, from the IAEA and WHO, which has been widely discredited for suppressing key data?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><i>A.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u201cWidely discredited\u201d by whom and on what actual evidence?\u00a0 The IAEA has several other responsibilities like security, safety and safeguards.\u00a0 And it was one of eight UN agencies involved in the Forum.\u00a0 You are asking us to believe not only that the IAEA pursued one specific goal to the detriment of the others, but that seven other UN agencies, including the World Health Organization, were involved, and that all their professional staffs went along with this.\u00a0 Perhaps the accusers can tell us how and why such an alleged cover-up occurred and what possible motive all those organizations and professionals would have had for assisting it.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Is nuclear energy the best option? \u00a0\u00a0Or just the least worst option?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><i>A.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We will always need a mix of energy sources.\u00a0 So it is not necessarily about being the best option, or the least worst option.\u00a0 It is about evaluating our options fairly based on actual facts and evidence.\u00a0 The environmentalists in the movie have merely come to the conclusion that nuclear deserves to be an option.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Could filmmaker Robert Stone have made more of an effort to look at other forms of energy, particularly renewables?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><i>A.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That would be relevant if the film director had set out to create a policy paper or an engineering report, and if the point were to select one option as being superior to another.\u00a0 As we\u2019ve said, we will always need a mix of energy sources.\u00a0 Pandora\u2019s Promise is about certain individuals telling a story in their own words.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Why does your industry keep saying nuclear is key to base load generation when wind combined with solar match up very well with patterns of peak demand?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><i>A.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Two reasons.\u00a0 First, already the great majority of all electricity generation is for base load, so you can\u2019t solve the emissions problem without addressing it.\u00a0 Second, a number of trends in the energy market \u2013 things like time-of-use pricing, smart meters, and recharging of batteries at night &#8212; are tending to blunt the peaks and fill the valleys of the demand cycle.\u00a0 Electric vehicles will accelerate that trend, because they too will be recharged at non-peak periods.\u00a0 That\u2019s good, because it uses generation capacity more fully.\u00a0 And that further increases the role of base load in the system.\u00a0\u00a0<\/i><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 How do we know that their changed view has made Mark Lynas and Michael Shellenberger somehow more competent, or more credible?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><i>A.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We all start out with limited information.\u00a0 But as humans we are not always great at seeking more of it, or of integrating new knowledge into our views.\u00a0 The fact that Lynas and Shellenberger and other environmentalists have adapted their opinions, and even been willing to turn them around completely, in the face of resistance from friends and colleagues, as they acquired more information,\u00a0 says something important about their characters and thinking.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Instead of just acknowledging the environmentalists who have been converted to nuclear, shouldn\u2019t you also acknowledge that there are former nuclear supporters who now oppose the technology?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><i>A.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Actually, that\u2019s erroneous.\u00a0 Opinion research shows a strong correlation between knowing more about nuclear technology and being more comfortable with it.\u00a0 In Canada, support for nuclear technology is highest in populations that live close to nuclear facilities, where knowledge of the impacts is also the highest.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Why is it that the more people in Ontario learn about your plans for a deep-earth storage chamber for low-level waste, the more they oppose it?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><i>A.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There are complications in measuring this kind of opinion.\u00a0 It\u2019s important to separate people\u2019s factual information about a project from their mere awareness that a project exists.\u00a0 Having heard of a project and having it at the front of your mind is not the same thing as having information about it.\u00a0 So \u201clearning more\u201d about something has to be carefully distinguished from being made suspicious and afraid of it.\u00a0 The one promotes support \u2013 as we see in the communities around a nuclear power plant \u2013 and the other promotes opposition.\u00a0 The complication is measuring opposition.\u00a0 You need to survey the whole community, not just measure the loudness of the opposition.\u00a0 Loud opposition must not be mistaken for public opinion across the community.\u00a0 Okay, maybe people in a certain area are against a deep geological repository, but let\u2019s see a statistically valid poll before we accept that they are.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By John Stewart Director, Policy and Research Canadian Nuclear Association Here are some questions raised by critics of\u00a0Pandora\u2019s Promise, and some opinions from the Canadian Nuclear Association. 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